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As if we needed any more proof off what a ripoff that author is.
Yeah except Stephenie Meyer didn’t choose the cover, the art department at her publisher did. Authors rarely have any input on what the covers to their books look like.
Stop calling her an author.
she’s a lagitamate author and I like her books. And yeah, she didn’t choose the cover. If no one has noticed, they’ve all had cover art, that’s basically there for ANYONE who wrote a book can USE at ANYTIME. It’s basically just cheap art.
If you can’t spell the word ‘legitimate’, you probably shouldn’t use it to prove a point. It undermines your argument, which is a valid one.
Lagitamate sounds like a Transformer.
LAGITAMATE… ACTIVATE!
Hey, “ACTIVATE” is a Wonder Twins line, not Transformers!
Unless it’s Soundwave ejecting one of his cassetticons.
Nonono you have it all wrong.
It’s totally a pokemon.
LAGITAMATE… I CHOOSE YOU!
A wild Abra appears!
wild Abra teleports!
Oh my gosh you still watch transformers my 6 year old neighbor watches that
OMG LOL you’re totally right!! you made my day with that, hahah
You shouldnt use fancy words like undermines on bad spellers xP
Calling Stephnie Meyer a “lagitamate” (LEGITIMATE. Does NO ONE know what SpellCheck is at all? And, it’s kinda hard to know much of anything about writing when you can’t spell a word correctly on a comment on the internet.) author is like calling Richard Simmons the pinnacle of manly machoness. Also, look on TMZ.com, and you’ll find a story about how Meyer has stolen the storyline for one of her books from another that was published nearly 3 years before the first Twilight book was published. That, and the fact that someone who actually knows just a little bit about horror and monster-character-based storytelling, STEPHEN KING, has basically called Meyer a hack who knows absolutely NOTHING ABOUT WRITING, VAMPIRES, OR THE HORROR GENRE, should tell you something. Hopefully, that something should be that Stephnie Meyer is not only a horrible excuse of a “writer,” but is also a plagiarist, and that you should feel bad for ever having supported this retarded hack at all.
wow you really ought to check your sources since that was proven false. Really? Listing TMZ as a legitimate site is like saying you got all of your facts for an essay off wikipedia. Also, Stephenie Meyer (not Stephnie) didn’t plan on writing a typical vampire book, instead she wanted to focus on the romance aspect; meaning it would be hard to compare her work that of Stephen King. When millions of people everywhere have fallen in love with her work, her writing has to have some substance don’t you think? So maybe she’s not the next Jane Austen or a long lost member of the Bronte family, but she’s certainly no “retarded hack.” Her stories aren’t meant to be perfect works of art, but people do enjoy them and they tell an interesting, fairly fresh story.
Touche
I personally think that she is the Vegemite of the literary world, people first have never heard of her, and then you either like her or absolutely disgust her in both your mind and your body. I never really found the twilight series romantic, I found it filled with way too much teenage angst that made me somewhat reminisce about the brilliant teen-drama Dawsons Creek, and having a vampire go “thparkuulllth” (please say it out loud so you can get the lisp joke.) hurts me in many ways. in fact it just made me lose an ovary…and it was my favorite one. However, I agree she probably didn’t get to choose the cover art, and that the people who did took them because they wanted to catch our attention.
However, the twilight series is just Stephanie Myers writing a clean version of a harlequin romance. and what good is a harlequin romance with out the dirty scenes?
Are you from Australia! If so, me too
I love vegemite
If so? So if they’re not from Australia does that mean you aren’t then?
What in the world are you talking about.
I mean that IF THEY HAPPEN to be Australian, I am too.
If they’re not, I’m still from Aus.
HAHAHAHAHA…. Awesome! Just had to give credit as nobody else had done so.
Aw, was it your left one? I have a fondness for my left ovary…
Darling, do you know what harlequin means?
Really, I read the first chapters or so and it’s clearly an Harlequin, the setting, the plot ( if there is any ) and the storyline is really in that style, and I read many of them. And i don’t find that Harlequin is literature, you just read it to kill time, like sudoku, it’s not serious. This is just a love story involving fantastic creatures instead of any other normal being. Still, I don’t like it.
I just hate the “fuzz” around it, young girls are going crazy about it and they overuse the Name for everything like movies, plastic figures, biography of a guy almost with his diapers on. I’ll just hope that they will do all the movies quickly and that we will never heard of it anymore.
Sorry for any misspelling, I’m a French speaker and I may do mistakes.
ur post made me lmao!
and i truely didnt get “thparkulllth” until i actually said it outloud. touche, very funny!
When millions of people everywhere have fallen in love with her work, her writing has to have some substance don’t you think?
^That’s the problem. Her writing DOESN’T have substance.
Just because people like it doesn’t mean it has any substance or literary merit. There are tons of books with substance and literary merit that people just don’t like.
I have to agree with Kayla. Millions of people liking it doesn’t prove anything. It’s called the lowest common denominator. Take typical romantic clichés, throw in some “vampires”, wrap it up in 4th-grade reading level writing and you’ve got yourself a gift for the masses.
I agree also. But sadly, to survive, WE NEED SUBSTANCE! Must…read…real…book…*splat*.
That’s kind of like saying that because millions of people joined the Nazi party, Hitler had a pretty good idea.
Isn’t the majority of these “millions of people” just pre-teen and teenager girls who are attracted to the book because of that other hack Patterson?
Funny. The “romance” you speak of doesn’t even exist in the book. Last time I checked Edward was an abusive and manipulative twat, and Bella was just infatuated with his looks. There IS no chemistry between them, and there IS no romance at all. There is also an absence of plot, tension or suspense. You need to read better literature, maybe then you would agree.
How was Edward abusive and manipulative exactly?
I don’t understand how ppl got this from reading these books.
I will just list a couple of reason why he is abusive (if you would like a full list and descriptions read Azrim’s Rebuttals which is where this is from).
Edward displays extreme instances of jealousy and control (pulling the engine out of Bella’s car so she cannot see Jacob). He also holds all the power when it comes to the sexual aspect of their relationship. Bella has no control over what happens in their relationship, sexually or emotionally. And while some people may say that he was doing this to protect her, once they married he has no problem with having sex with her. Remember physical abuse is not the only kind of abuse.
Okay, so I’m not trying to defend Twilight as great literature, because it certainly isn’t. However, I have read all 4 books and enjoyed them passingly because hey, it was an easy read and kinda fun, even if I got nothing out of it intellectually.
However, your arguments are missing two important things. He removes the car engine because he honestly thinks seeing Jacob endangers her.
Also, one of the big themes of the book is abstinence until marriage (Meyer’s a Mormon, so big surprise there), so of course it’s okay after marriage… that’s kinda the point. And he DOES have reservations about having sex with her, incidentally, while she’s still human.
Anyway, like I said, not defending the books as a whole. Those are just bad points.
As a whole, yeah, the writing is horrible. If I heard the world “alabaster” one more time, I was going to scream. But I support my statement that it’s a fun, light, quick read.
Read Mysteries of Udolpho by Ann Radcliffe. It is touted as great literature and taught at the Graduate level in college (that’s where I was introduced to the book), but I would take Twilight over Mysteries any day of the week. If you think alabaster is bad, try “sublime”, “sublimely” and “sublimity”. THAT will certainly drive a teetotaller to drink after wading through over 700 pages of size FOUR font (I don’t want to see how long the book is in a readable font – I actually had to use a magnifying sheet to read the d*** thing) – oh and melancholy. And descriptions of trees. And mountains. And more trees. And more mountains. Did I mention they were sublime? And also, apparantly, somehow, melancholy? And in the mountains? And that the heroine was melancholy? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! MUST – PLUCK – OUT – EYES!!!!
Wow!! I can’t believe you get this out of his behavior. Anyone who thinks like you doesn’t know about love. If he were to display extreme instances of jealousy he would have killed Jacob but since he knew how Bella felt about him then he didn’t. It means he LOVED her. How would you feel knowing that the love of your life loves someone else? I doubt that you would not express an ounce of jealousy.
He couldn’t kill Jacob unless he wanted to violate their treaty and get his ass handed to him by a raging wolf pack.
Yeah, I read the books.
No, I didn’t like them.
Yes, Edward is abusive.
No, he wasn’t “protective.”
if you think Twilight is romantic, you also think the Chris Brown/Rihanna relationship is romantic.
No Chris Brown/Rihanna isn’t romantic.
But the Twilight series is – GOTHIC romance, that is. Read Wuthering Heights and maybe you’ll understand.
This is actually in response to sublimity… but i can’t so whatever…
*Faceplam*
Wuthering Heights is not a romance. It was a story about two antagonists who fall in love, then make each other miserable due to not being able to be selfless.
It’s not a “gothic” romance, it’s an abusive, controlling, evy-driven, sick imatation of one. Yet they are still in love.
It’s not a thing Stephenie Meyer should base a book on if she’s talking about “true, unconditional love” that is what people should want to have.
Twilight’s sick in a funny way. Part of that is because she based it on “Romeo and Juliet” and “Wuthering Heights” two of the least romantic books in the universe.
Romeo + Juliet: a “love” based on apperances. Shallow and stupid, it’s truely a hate story. (about the emnity of two familys killing two reckless teenagers.)
And I already spoke about Wuthering Heights.
But… Your opinion is yours, yours to shape as you will. XD
Oh my gods, another Twihard who thinks they know what love is because they read about it in a book. These books really are terrible in so many ways. They’re poorly written with awful dialouge, they send a horrible horrible message to all the love starved people out there, and the characters are one dimensional and cringe worthy. I could go on for hours.
The only way they could be this popular is by some sort of spell. Or a Jedi mind trick, which we all know only works on the weak minded.
Pretty much if you read twilight and THINK you know what love is, using the books as evidence of that makes everyone see you as a joke.
The only way to KNOW what love is, is to find it yourself (or let it find you)
not through some childish scribblings that should not have gotten published.
If Edward’s character loved Bella’s so much, than he would have respected her own personal desicions of who she wanted to be friends with, and who she wanted to date. Edward Cullen, in general, is a very disturbing and one-dimensional character. He’s not just controlling, Emotionally abusive and a ‘little green monster,’ but he’s also a complete stalker. He watched Bella sleep at night, even snuck in to share a bed with her. I doubt any realistic girl would feel good about having a man watch her sleep.
‘Love,’ also, isn’t like it is shown in Twilight. In Twilight, it’s shown through an unhealthy relationship between the two main characters. From my own experiences, I know, for a fact, the kind of relationship between Bella and Edward DOES NOT WORK in real life. Not with good results, anyway.
I think you need just a little bit of reality placed into your life, sweetheart.
I could also explain why the story itself isn’t very good, but I don’t want to rant TOO much. (:
On a final note: You can be jealous with out messing with your girlfriend/boyfriend’s life.
Thankyouverymuch, but alot of people think like that, and I most certainly know how to love. It wasn’t love that held him back from killing Jacob, it was logic. Bella didn’t have anything to do with the equation. Edward, even though he’s a stupid-mother-heifer-loving-son-of-a-beefcow, is a smart stupid-mother-heifer-loving-son-of-a-beefcow. He knows that if he kills Jacob, a war will be declared between the vampire clan and the werewolves. He’s not not killing Jacob because he knows it’d kill his “love”, but he doens’t want to lose his family. That’s okay, just don’t go stating that he didn’t kill Jacob because he wasn’t extremely jealous. Back to the “love” comment, if that’s love, thank god it’s not the love I have! He takes Bella’s emotions and twists them up in a ball before chunking them in the trashcan, controls her, doesn’t talk to her about anything of importance, and (this is what gets me) let’s her whore around, kissing any cutie with a pair of lips, but gets furious at her for doing so. That’s like you saying to your dog, “Ok Fido, I’m going to let you have the bacon. But you must not eat the bacon.”. It’s not right, or fair. And a little off the argument topic I just made, but I need to get this off my chest, that BK commercial shows us how ditzy Twilight fans are. “You can pet Jacob.” “Edward sparkles.” SO?!?!?!?! These reasons are completely shallow, and vain; proving that THAT is all they get from a book?? Please, pass the Hemingway (which have substance and a plot, to say the least), and get the Twilighters out of my face.
LOL a twat is a pregnant goldfish XP
How many people with decent taste in writing do you know that support her novels?
Nobody likes her books for their writing. They simply think that it’s a good story because they’re easilly wooed.
Any author who can’t even follow her own plot devices within two different books is not one that demands respect.
I have what most would say a “decent” taste in writing, and I liked her books. They were minutely annoying here and there, as well as a very, very easy read. She was a fresh writer, and her characters weren’t developed at all in the twilight series. Also, her story line was rather old… Still, it isn’t horrible for what it is.
If you read The Host, you’ll see it’s written much better, and the characters grow, one could say. So much better than twilight.
Have you actually read the whole series, cover to cover?
eta: you misspelled “easily”
Yes. Many times.
I’m curious, why do YOU like them. You spit out many complants antis have, then… What is good about the books other then it preaching “no sex?”
The Host is better… But not good enough. I’ve truely seen 12 year olds who write better, but they actually LIKE critiques, so maybe that’s it.
I think is easier to prove that both Stephanie Meyer and every last one of her fans are all retarded hacks, than proving there is any kind of substance whatsoever in the Twilight series of books.
It’s called a lawsuit, and whether or not a judge decides intellectual property was stolen. And it’s the author of The Nocturne saying that Meyer stole material for Breaking Dawn, and The Nocturne was not published three years before Twilight.
Also, Meyer wrote a first draft of Breaking Dawn called Forever Dawn back in like 2002 or earlier.
And I think it’s interesting that Stephen King said that Meyer doesn’t know anything about the horror genre, considering she doesn’t write horror. She wrties teen swooney romance. And Stephen King isn’t the best writer, either. He’s a pop writer, not literature.
I don’t think Meyer is a good writer, nor do I like her books, but come on, do some research before.
Stephen King, like Shakespeare before him (and yes, I *did* just compare the two!) has made the leap from ‘low art’ to ‘high art’.
When he first got started, people enjoyed his work, but never looked much further (or is it farther? I always confuse the two…) than just beneath the surface, therefore his work was considered low brow and for the lesser educated layperson only.
Now, who was I talking about in the above statement?
By the newest version of the MLA, further and farther are interchangeable.
He never compared her work to horror.
1) I thought twilight got published in… 2003? I’m not sure… Anyone know? Forever Dawn was written after twilight was published (i think) so…
2) He writes well, and it doesn’t matter if you write commercial or literature as long as you do it well. She can’t write, so the Genre doesn’t matter in crits.
3) Also, she needs to do research more then we do… like, the whole definition of sci-fi for one.
Meyer obviously wasn’t aiming for “horror”, so I think that just goes to show Stephen King’s IGNORANCE about the books.
Authors should be defending their fellow authors, and if they don’t well all I can say is…JEALOUS, some Mr. King?
He was asked about it in an interview.
…
Why do I bother, heh boredom
He sold 300 milion plus books, she sold 30 mil; he has a loyal fanbase who is smart, she has crazys who key cars; add that to her insulting authors (including the greats) addd it all up…
King’s not jealous.
It’s not a horror story…it’s a romance??? DER.
HAHAHA, you said DER. Breeding FAIL
Well she hacked well! The host was an amazing book.
Totally agree about the fact Meyer doesn’t know anything about vampires/horror.
Anyone would fancy to throw her Bram Stoker’s Dracula in the face in my stead ?
She’s definitely a hack, and I wouldn’t say she’s fit for the horror genre at all–or even that she was really aiming to. She wrote a cheesy, unrealistic fairy tale romance for the pre-teen/young teen girl demographic, and she succeeded at it. Unfortunately you pretty much give up any credit as a serious author when you do that, but.. whatever makes the money, right?
Do you know what I think? I like the Twilight series, even if Stephnie Meyer can’t write (yes, I don’t think she’s a very good writer) and she ripped it off of somebody else. If I had read the other person’s story, I would have liked them more than her. I’m not a crazy fan, but I will say that I like the story.
And for those people that say Twilight is gay: Really? Who cares? I love how they say “Twilight is gay. Why don’t you go live your lives instead of spending your life reading this crap?” I always love saying to them “Why are you even on this site/group/thread if you hate it so much? Don’t you have anything better to do?” XD
In conclusion: Why can’t we all get along? Oh, right. Because we all have different tastes in things.
Oh, of course, because TMZ is SUCH a reliable source
Though I do agree that she is not a good writer, and that her idea of vampires (and the book as a whole) makes absolutely no sense.
You lost me at “I like her books”.
But what you are saying is essentially true… it’s a stock image.
Yaaaawn. Next.
She is an author!!!
She is about as much as an author as I am taking over the internet.
I can not conquer the internet.
She can not write to save her creepy stalker pedophile loving life.
Author (n): a person who writes a novel, poem, essay, etc.; the composer of a literary work, as distinguished from a compiler, translator, editor, or copyist.
By the book, she is an author. Whether or not you personally think she is a decent author has no bearing either on these comments or on the above lol.
Ok touche, by the book she’s an author.
In reality outside of tweens and young people who most likely never read great works….she’s not an author.
I am 17, read the Twilight books, and I read other books too, including “great books” in and out of school. You don’t need to stereotype all Twilight fans just because of the annoying 12-year-olds.
Amen to that!
Exactly!
THANKS. Really. I am 21, not very “girly”, I read Twilight before they make a movie and loved it. And yeah, I’d love to kill these “annoying 12-year-olds” the first time I saw Twilight =)
(by the way, no need to mention my mistakes to say that “I must be stupid, after all, I like Meyer”, I do mistakes just because English is not my first language ^^)
Most grown ups don’t really consider 17 that much more mature or less annoying that 12.
Maturity doesn’t always depend on age. Just because I’m 17 doesn’t mean I act like every other 17-year-old you know.
I’m just glad that teenagers are still reading! Isn’t that really what it comes down to? Who cares what kids these days are reading as long as its more than 10 pages, they are connecting with the work, grappling some meaning from it, and using their imagination freely.
We live in such a technological age that most young people do not even enjoy reading more than an article in a scandalous magazine. Nevermind using creativity and their imaginations.
And yes, everyone has the right to their own opinions, but would you really enjoy reading scathing personal character comments like those if it was your novel? It’s so easy to make fun of someone when you don’t have to say it to their face. However, I imagine that most people writing hateful things wouldn’t have the courage to do it in person.
I’m fine with them reading, I just don’t need to read their questions like “who’s hotter?”, “what’s better?” and how much they love it, everywhere on the internet. But it’s fine, I’ll get my way out and I bet this fandom will be over sometime too.
Uhmmm…yes and no. Yes, it’s wonderful, teenagers are still reading, but what are they reading? I’m totally panicked at the idea of a whole generation inspired by the total submission of a carachter like Bella for a carachter like edward… Is that the message we are sending to those teens, really? In an age they start developing relationships with other people? I’d rather have them stuck to facebook that reading that kind of thing and assuming this kind of behaviour is normal an acceptable.
As for the “scathing personal carachter comments”, I think you’re right, but I have the feeling that being listed as #26 in Forbes celebrity list, she’s probably laughing at you and me on the way to the bank. I think she should be fine.
Trust me, I don’t write anything I wouldn’t say in person if I could. It’s called a filter.
I wouldn’t like to read stuff like that… because there is truth in it. Would I like to read that Mathieu is an abusive stalker and Raye is a mary-sue? No, because that would mean I failed as a writer. Is it important to read? Yes.
I’m glad teens are reading too, but why read that nonsense? and the psychosis that most of them take on after reading them that’s the real problem. When i was in high school girls would seriously get in scream fights over who was better.
And as for anyone referring to it as a horror novel? No. you want horror? Read some Lovecraft.
i am 43 years old and i have read the Twilight series and enjoyed doing so. they were not the most intellectually stimulating books, but they were a good read. enjoying these books has nothing to do with maturity or age, it is all about opinion and taste. a book does not need to be insightful to be enjoyed. this was a series that any one from the age of ten to eighty could enjoy as a light read. thats all it comes down to.
You want a light read, grab a cosmo. Seriously, I’ve read childrens’ books to my son that has more substance than the Twilight novels. My personal collection of books rivals that of the local public library, and I’d honestly never picked up a book that I couldn’t finish. In some cases, I had to force myself to finish, but finish I did. Until Twilight. It was dry; the characters were underdeveloped, emo kids; the plot development was choppy at best. So no, not anyone could enjoy it. Only those who have no expectations. As for maturity and age Vs. opinion and taste, well, lets just say, there weren’t a whole lot of 43 year old ladies clamoring for N’sync at the height of their popularity. I personally find that books MUST be insightful to be good, any insinuation to the contrary is insulting. If you’re going to meld something as generic as teen romance with something as lore specific as vampires, it had better be good, or you’re going to sacrifice your integrity for a paycheck, but, like mediocre literature, I guess that’s ok for some people.
thank you! i read the twilight books and they were very well done altho not my favorite. stereotypes: ugh! they ruin it for everyone else!
I’m 15, have read the whole Twilight series, and desperately wish I could get those hours of my life back.
You do realize that you could have stopped reading at any moment, right?
…Excuse me? I am a 12-year-old, and I absolutely hate Twilight. No need to stereotype all 12-year-olds. I think Meyer has absolutely no writing talent at all. I’ve read fanfiction better than her books. I mean, the only place where “men” should “sparkle” is in a strip club, haha.
M?! shouldn’t you be at work looking for criminals
That means I’m an author too. That means that even the sh**** fanfic writers are authors. Not a big deal.
She’s not an author, J. She’s just a person who slammed her hands on the keyboard a few times and passed it off as literature.
Win.
WIN
I wish everyone would leave her alone…if you don’t like the book, don’t judge her because of her crazy fans. I read both the Twilight series and The Host, and The Host is AMAZING. Twilight has never impressed me, but The Host has established itself as one of my favorite books. It has romance, but it’s no where near as obsessive as the protagonist in Twilight, it’s about not understanding love sometimes.
Oh dear. Almost a year over due..
I don’t judge by the fans. I judge by book quality. I admit, The Host is better than Twilight, yes, but that’s not saying much. The Host, though, was pretty lame. Truthfully, if it’s your favorite book, you need to read more. A lot more. And please do.
I hope that when you read this you’ll laugh and say “I have new favorites now! I don’t care about ‘The Host’ anymore!”
Thank you, dear~
Anyone who can get 4th and 5th grade kids to voraciously devour her books is an author whether you like it or not.
Sure, her books are not my cup of tea but they ARE books and people DO read them.
I know, it’s like they think she writes stories, not drivel.
totally agree santov. those books were a waste of ink and paper. may she choke on her own words
Not true. Authors are often urged to give their input to the cover.
Sorry, I’m an author, I’ve chosen carefully all of my covers. o.O
Bitter harpy much?
Hmmm. Where are you published Mae? Oh, thats right, you’re not. Hmmmm. But this year its totally cool to rip on Meyers, right? ” I’m cool cuz I hate twilight., My life doesn’t suck cuz I hate sparkle vampires.” But you’re right, everyone hates her books. All 20 or 30 million of them.
about 4 billion people on earth… Do the math… please, it’s not that hard!
(hint: more people hate then like.)
Authors aren’t given the option of choosing the cover of their books, that’s usually the publishing company or editor’s job.
Good authors and writers generally do get that option as well as right-of-refusal.
I would imagine by ‘good’ you mean ‘powerful’. An author can be a ‘good’ author, but because they don’t have enough clout, these decisions are left to someone in a position of more power.
Not that I’m a Meyer fan, or anything, I’m just saying is all…
“Good” has nothing to do with it. It IS power.
Although, not to be a spoil-sport to anyone or anything, but weirdly enough Stephenie Meyer DID have a little bit of input on the first cover.
Not only that, she had input to most of the series.
everyone just hates the twilight saga because
1. they haven read the books
2. they havent waches the movies
or
3. they’re a guy
I strongly dislike the Twilight saga. I have read the first three books. I have seen the first two movies. I am a girl.
Most people who hate it either hate it because it’s trendy to hate it, or hate it because it’s complete rubbish that gives a whole new generation of tweens ridiculous ideas. Probably the latter.
I just so happen to be a young woman, yet I LOATHE the Twilight series. I’ve read all the books except for the novelette that’s been recently published. I admit that it was hard to put it down.. But.. That was for a totally different reason.
It was like if you saw a plan wreck. And then all of a sudden a train rams into the train, then there’s a pile up of cars, then a Semi hauling nitroglycerin hit them and exploded. . .
Except it wasn’t as amazingly spectacular to look at.
You’re right, I haven’t seen the movies. I haven’t seen the movies for this simple reason:
Movies are almost never as good as the books. So why waste twenty bucks to see a movie that’s worse than an already terrible series? I’d much rather buy a new video game, a new Book, or see a quality movie. Like Despicable Me, Toystory 3, Harry Potter.. Something that’s worth 20 dollars.
Twilight sends the wrong message, and is poorly written. IT is filled up to the brim with Purple Prose. She’ll use 24 words to describe something as simple as ‘Edward looked humiliated, and I felt bad for him,’ or even ‘Edward was Humiliated, and I pitied him.’
i hate the twilight saga because
1. i have read the books, all of them.
2. i have seen all the available movies
3. i am a girl.
thank you for stereotyping. now for the real reasons i hate the books: boring characters, anti-climaxes, abusive relationships.
i hate the movies because: i hate the books, i hate hate hate robert pattinson (seriously, can he maybe get some ex-lax to get the constipated look off his face???), and the same goes for kristen stewart. she always, in every single movie i’ve seen her in, has the same STUPID look on her face and has no emotion whatsoever.
You know, someone could make $$ by creating a publishing covers database that publishers, record companies, etc, could search before deciding a particular stock photo is the one they want to use for their cover. Or maybe stock photo companies could create a feature on their site that lets you know what the photo has been used for.
That’s actually brilliant.
Copyright that idea before someone steals it, and you could make a fine chunk of change!
except so many (even stock images) are used illegally, because large companies can get away with that. I have seen tons of great artists whos work is STOLEN rather than paid for, and called stock when it really isnt.
So far, the only book cover my art has been found on though, was one I created it for.
Is called “stock photography.” Meh.
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Books that don’t have their titles capitalized properly aren’t worth reading.
AGREED.
But the title of the book is not English – in whichever language it is written in (which looks like French) the second word may not be traditionally capitalized, even if it is in the title of the book. And the punctuation/capitalization of a title should not be the sole reason behind reading a book. Twilight had proper capitalization and it, quite frankly, was horribly written.
rofl French…. Ever heard of Dutch?
Yeah, sorry. I didn’t even think about it. I saw the “De” and was like, “Oh, French.”
I saw it and didn’t think too much about it — thought it might’ve been german.
I thought it was about the English book, since that title doesn’t have any capitalization at all. xD How should a book be capitalized then?
the book?
The Book?
The book?
THE BOOK?
=) I don’t know. I just read books, I don’t pay attention to who the title is written.
always judge a book by it’s cover, nyee?
YOU DO NOT JUDGE A BOOK BY IT COVER NIMROD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
” De Beproeving ” is dutch for ” The Trial ” Just so yall know
And I got what I came for.
Thanks,. I was wondering
Google translate says “test”.
From my Dutch to English dictionary:
beproeving: [to test someone] testing, [accident] ordeal, trial, [test] trial, test
in other words, here it should be testing, so the right translation would be: “The testing” (I guess… My English isn’t that good, but my Dutch is (A) )
fun fact, when you look up De Beproeving in google, and have the page translated to english…it states that it’s a stephen king book…..but this picture shows some other name on the cover.
More like “The Ordeal” actually. “The Trial” would be “Het proces” or something similar.
(posted a bit above as well..)
From my Dutch to English dictionary:
beproeving: [to test someone] testing, [accident] ordeal, trial, [test] trial, test
in other words, here it should be testing, so the right translation would be: “The testing” (I guess… My English isn’t that good, but my Dutch is (A) )
People need to do more research before they grab a random stock image for their book cover… XD
They’re from different countries… only on TTL would you find them together, so why NOT use the same photo?
How did a fat girl’s myspace pic get on the cover of two books?
Fat? Huh? Just because her cheek isn’t CONCAVE, she’s fat? Go away, douchebag.
No, it’s a joke about the style of photo, dumbass. The photo focusing on one eye is a favourite of girls who… Aren’t happy about their figure.
+1 Insightful
yes
You made me laugh!
Haha, good point!
i want my myspace picture back. O_o
One stock photo TLL the same stock photo?
Fail.
you suck
I’d be pissed if I was a bestselling author and my publisher was using stock photos for the cover.
The books also both came out within the first few months of 2008. There’s no way one could have copied the other, they would both have been in the final review/print process at the same time.
The host is better. And everyone who keeps saying it sucks, read it before you knock it…otherwise you’re just an ignorant douchebag.
I take it you read a lot of french novels so that you can back up the claim that one book is better than the other?
*points at Herr Muhen’s comment* you could have known it’s Dutch.
Couldn’t care less either way. French…Dutch….just as annoying.
Oh yes what an amazing comment.
Wow! Another SMeyer fan repeating the same argument! Oh, you people are always saying “Don’t criticize it until you’ve read it.” Then when/if we read it and still hate it, you say “Why did you read it if you didn’t like it?” That’s a SMeyer fan for ya!
I think if you read it and don’t like it then that’s fine. But if you didn’t read it and you’re making fun of it, you’re just being ignorant. I really don’t care if you read it and hated it. That’s fine with me. Just as long as you’re making a informed comment…
I hated it. I read all four.
Read ‘em all and have found more depth in airplane novels.
Read the first two and then decided it would be more productive to carve my eyes out with a spoon, because if something’s gonna give me as much brain damage, I’d rather do it myself.
Well, did you read it, honestly? If so you can say, whatever on the books. And the people who use Stephen King’s and other authors’ opinions to back up their “argument” against SM….well all I have to say is… jeez, don’t quote others, quote yourself. (Or maybe you can’t back up your own opinions?
Actually, quoting renowned members of a trade to back up your oppinion on somebody else in the same trade is perfectly fine. Stephen King, being he is an Author, is a perfectly good person to quote when pointing out faulty writing. Though King isn’t the best writer in the world, he is still an amazing writer, and deserves to be respected as a perfectly good point of reference. Meyer doesn’t write well.
And yes, I did read it. Every book. I even read The Host.
Honestly, they’re nothing great. In fact, they’re horrible. They’ve inspired me to write better than Meyer in all 3(Or maybe 4) genres she’s wrecked.
And maybe if you read real authors you would have better grammar.
And only a real douche would correct someones grammar online. Hey I made another grammar mistake, care to correct that one too?
Actually, everyone corrects grammar on this site. On here, if you don’t use proper grammar, you’re not taken seriously. Not being mean, it’s the truth.
A “real douche?” More like a person who actually takes pride in his or her education as opposed to dumbing him/herself down on the Internet. In life, you’re not going to get ahead by half-assing what you write. Things like terrible spelling and grammar result in not being taken seriously. Practicing writing correctly, even on the Internet, is only going to further yourself for when you actually have to -write- in the professional world. Unless you become a fry cook, you’ll need to write well. Any well-paying job requires such.
By the way, I’m seventeen. I also hate Twilight. I counted something like fifteen comma splices in the first ten pages. How can that rubbish get by an editor? It completely ruins the flow of a story. Not to mention, it glorifies an abusive relationship (the Twitards are probably gonna say something like, “EDWARD WAS PROTECTING HER!!!!”). Protecting her my ass. When he left, she was close to killing herself. Why would you instill a message like that onto naïve, teenaged girls? So, if your boyfriend leaves or breaks up with you, thinking about suicide is all right? Backwards, I say. Backwards.
exactly!
Assuming you are male: Will you marry me?
I don’t care what sex you are….marry me!
I think her obsession with Edward when he leaves was just a dramatization of something that holds true for A LOT of people… When you’re young, your significant other tends to be important to you. Sometimes, it’s the most important thing in your life.
I’m not saying the Edward/Bella relationship is healthy in any way/shape/form but it does exist in the books. It’s not realistic, but, hey, it’s fiction. It’s supernatural fiction. It makes no attempts at being at all realistic. If someone was that important to you, wouldn’t you react negatively to their departure?
And also, Bella was never suicidal. Not once does she even think about killing herself, much less make an attempt at taking her own life. Don’t bring up the cliff-diving incident- that wasn’t done with the intent to end her life.
Twilight is a modern day fairytale. It doesn’t claim to be- and it isn’t- a literary masterpiece. Last time I checked, more traditional fairytales promote images that aren’t embraced these days- and you can encounter those same theme in classic Disney movies. Ah, I’m not really sure what the point of this paragraph was when I started writing it, so I guess I’ll just leave it there.
She says “life isn’t worth living without him.” in the book, edward tries to kill himself when he thinks she’s dead… a lot of attempts.
There’s a part when she says she’s glad the Voltori will be there to kill her if she fails in “saving” Edward’s “life”. Then Alice gets mad at her and swears to get her out alive… Remember???
I loved The Host.
I read Stephanie’s books, all of them. And I still think they suck.
Look, you should read some Dostoievsky, could even start with Anne Rice, just to start reading something WORTH.
She’s just awful at writing, I don’t understand why people love her books. Maybe that’s because she repeats the word “perfect” so many times, people get used to call that perfection.
I HATE Anne Rice. I find her dry and completely overrated and I’ve read a large assortment of her different novels.
But I think the who Stephanie Meyer thing is a To each their own. Mind You I enjoyed the Twilight books not as great novels but purely as brain candy. At least teens and kids are reading more.
I agree with you about Anne Rice. I love her stories, hate her writing. I’m not much a fan of Stephanie Meyers either, but that’s mostly because I know too many “OMFG YOU HATE HER! YOU SUCK! SHE’S AMAZING!” people and just got tired of it.
The one thing about her books is they won’t last long. Maybe one more generation will find them interesting, but that’s only if she’s lucky. They’ll never be on par with authors like Edgar Allan Poe or Harper Lee.
Just thinking that people suggested her books go on the reading list makes me shudder. If that happens, my kids will be homeschooled.
Better get started on that. This trash has found its way onto summer reading lists at the high school I attended.
That’s a shame! My high school only allows classic books to be read for summer reading. Such as “Grapes of Wrath,” “An American Tragedy,” “A Separate Peace,” and et cetera.
That’s how I feel. I’m not saying that the Twilight books are great works of literature that will become classics or anything, but I personally enjoy reading them, and to me that’s all that matters. I also really enjoyed reading Jane Eyre and 1984. Books are written for different purposes. Some are meant to be intellectually stimulating and some are just meant to be read for fun. I don’t really see a problem with reading some of both.
I read for pleasure and stimulation and Stephenie Meyer did neither. She is a useless hack without a single shred of respect for writing, authors, and the vampire genre! I can understand being different, if you want a different take on vampires I suggest the book The Reformed Vampire Support Group by Catherine Jinks. A very fun book with a completely different take on vampires and how their not as amazing and powerful as everyone thinks they are. I enjoyed it throughly!
The content and worth of what you read is just as important as reading in and of itself.
It’s like saying, “Little Jimmy was found reading the dirty letters in a Penthouse magazine, but, oh well – at least he’s reading!”
I agree. I cannot, for the love of Obama, stand Twilight, but The Host is okay, if not pretty good.
Not many people here can really read Dutch(Or French, I wouldn’t know), but even if we could, I seriously think that the other book is probably better then The Host.
Oh no she’s writing agian?
Actually this book came out before the last book of the Twilight saga. And learn how to spell. =]
AGAIN. =]
Well to be fair he used the apostrophe correctly and all that so it might have just been a typo rather than anything to do with spelling. On the other hand all modern browsers offer spell checking nowadays so there’s no excuse to writing “agian” instead of “again”.
Actually, my entire post was full of typo’s (and grammar error, and I’m sure they’re still in it!) and Firefox fixed them for me just nicely.
Which brings me to my next point: cheese.
Does Internet Explorer offer spell checking? That’s what I use and my spelling mistakes don’t get corrected unless I notice them.
ugh. just cuz ppl dont like sparkly vampires you have to make fun of EVERYTHING she writes? god get a life.
It’s not because “ppl dont like sparkly vampires”, it’s because people don’t like her books because she sucks at writing.
YOU suck at writing! :p
YOU suck at being taken seriously.
You suck at sucking.
so, does that mean… they don’t suck? or they’re not very good at sucking? so… bah, brain malfunction!
WIN!
and by win i mean epic fail.
Actually I read a bit of it, and it wasn’t that bad. I still hate the Twillight series, but this one wasn’t too bad. Still a bit cringe-worthy compared to what I’m used to, but that’s why I don’t often delve into the young adult’s section very often. Few of those writers can really write up to par with my favourites.
Rest well knowing that bad books use stock photos of equal failure.
lol
I hate the Twilight saga but loved The Host.
Thing is, on The Host, the eye has a ring of silver around the pupil. I wonder if it’s the same way on the other book, I can’t tell.
This is why book covers should be done by artists that don’t just use stock photography all the time. Things like this WILL happen
The cover for Twilight looks almost exactly like the cover for one of C.S. Lewis’ books (I can’t remember which one) and Lewis’ book was published decades before Stephanie Meyer even dreamt of vampires. So, this isn’t the first of her books to look similar to another. D:
It’s called a stock image. It’s not a crime.
C’est la: http://bookshoptalk.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/cs-lewis-book-totally-looks-like-twilight-book.jpg
No no it was a collection of his work by some other person. And made after Twilight.
To each his own right? Why do people come on here just to judge peoples books? Honestly it’s kind of childish and super annoying. Why not go to the publishers yourselves and complain there if you hate the books that much. Instead of coming on here and making a complete ass out of yourself just because you happen to not like the writing of another persons books. Wow. People really need to get lives.
v true
Actually, childish and annoying is someone who gets butthurt just because someone doesn’t like their favorite book.
Very True. Finally someone with some sense in them!
Why are you even commenting on this kind of stuff if you hate her? Why don’t you just ignore it instead of getting all angry about someone you’ve never met, never read her books and maybe seen 5 minutes of the movie. hmmm?
Bacon is so right!
I’ve met Stephenie Meyer, read all her books, and seen the whole movie. (blame my sister, not me).
Yet she still makes me angry.
That’s pretty impressive.
you have amazing self-restraint. or a very high quality straight jacket. (it’s a joke, sorry, i have a slightly twisted sense of humor)
just because I haven’t met her doesn’t mean anything. Right now, nobody is saying anything that horrible about her, they say that the books suck. You know, most people who don’t like them HAVE read the books and seen the movie. We’ve seen her on tv, we’re read about her, we can see her way of life and we can see what she likes from the books. And if we don’t like it we can say it. Freedom of speech. We can write what we want about the books, since you can write how much you like them. And about ignoring – you can ignore us if this bothers you so much.
XD
I’ve read all of them, my friend has met her and says she’s arrogant and acts ‘superior’ to everyone else, and my BF and little sister have both seen the movie and say it sucks horribly.
And why should we ignore it? Are we going to ignore the kid who jumped off the same cliff Bella did because it was “SO KEWL”? Should we ignore the pet mouse and pet fish killed by rabid twitards because their owners said they ‘didn’t like Twilight’?
I shall not ignore.
Did this really happen? Oh dear.
Not read either of them, don’t intend to (feeling too old for “sparkly vampires”), but once again would like to remind TLL users of the simple request that lookalikes are FUNNY…
The Host is NOT a sparkly vampire book. Personally, I thought it was much better written than the Twilight series, although I really enjoy those, too.
they do, however, involve shiny, shimmery… things. saying it now, it actually does remind me of twilight, but only in that aspect. actually it made me think more of the movie “push”. (“it’s a bead! a shiny, shimmery bead!”, ahh great movie)
People have gotta realise that, whether you like or don’t like her books, you cannot deny that she is an amazing author. It’s like JK Rowling – some people hate Harry Potter, but even they know that they are still completely amazing books.
Sorry, everyone – I’m just telling you what you already know.
And by the way, I ♥ Twilight.
Suck that, Internet.
Oh, because the lines “my eyes fell on the phone” and “I stared across the long room without breathing” are such AMAZING sentences, right?
XD
“My eyes fell on the phone. I then went to the kitchen to rinse the dust and hair off of them and then decided perhaps I should take better care of them.”
Hehehehehe.
Yeah, you showed me.
Did you really just compare Meyer to Rowling? Given, some of the Potter books didn’t deliver quite like I’d hoped they would, but even the least used Harry Potter character has more feeling and depth than Bella Swan.
No, she is -not- an “amazing author”. Her writing style is atrocious; therefore, she is a terrible author. Just because somebody’s work is “popular”, doesn’t make it “good”!
I looked up both books.
The host by Stephenie Meyer is published on May 6, 2008.
De beproeving by Tess Franke is published on February 1, 2008
So shut up about that author copying the book cover from Stephenie Meyer. It has nothing to do with the author, mostly they aren’t involved in the cover choice.
And as mentioned above, the picture is just a stock photo, which they can use everywhere (in adverts, websites and yeah book covers).
Neither are in English, either. The one on the right is in French, while the one on the left is in Fangirl (trust me, I’ve read it).
OMGs… the right one is in Dutch, I know it, because I know Dutch….. uhuh, French is something very different ~ and I know French too…
French is different than Dutch? They’re both Not English, so I hadn’t noticed.
(Just so I don’t come across as an a$$hat, that was meant to be silly and stupid – not rude and sarcastic…)
Oh, let’s not forget the “bouquets of brilliant anemones undulating ceaselessly”
Stephanie Meyer is an “amazing” author only to the simple minded. I’ve read all four Twilight books, and I couldn’t believe how often she repeated herself.
Next time anyone reads this series, whether you are re-reading it or reading it for the first time, pay attention to how many times she uses the word “murmur” throughout the series. Count them. Just for fun. Seriously, it was starting to make me ANGRY how many times I had to read that freaking word. It’s called a thesaurus, Meyer, please use it for the love of god.
Annnd… a new drinking game has just been invented!
one that you’ll never finish lol. by the second chapter you’d be passed out on the floor! (i’m not being serious, for the record.) you made me actually and honestly laugh out loud. =)
It’s nice to see that they have to mention the fact she wrote ‘The Twilight Saga’ to sell this book.
It’s actually quite common for books to have “author of so-and-so” on their covers. It doesn’t seem particularly desperate to me; it’s just a marketing ploy used on many books.
funny you mention that. the first printing had it in smaller print and the next printing had it in much larger font about the same time the twilight movie came out on dvd.
i hate the culture btw but working at a bookstore makes it hard to avoid.
It’s just something publishers do. I mean, I did this reading group and we read “The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe,” a couple of months before the movie had been in theaters. It had printed on the cover, “Soon to be a Major Motion Picture in December!” It’s unavoidable. They’re obviously going to do it, especially if it sells a couple of extra books or gets a few more people to see the movie.
Stephenie meyer’s a good author… i dont know (and dont care) who the other person is… -.-
No, she is -not- an “good author”. Her writing style is atrocious; therefore, she is a terrible author. Just because somebody’s work is “popular”, doesn’t make it “good”!
Please explain why her writing style is ATROCIOUS. This is not a legitimate statement without nothing to back it up with.
you need only read each and every comment prior to this one to learn how people find her writing to be “atrocious”.
I have read her books every so often i’d seen to find that The Host and Twilight have the same story line. Two guys fighting over one girl in the Host? Sound a little bit like Twilight? Its bad enough she changed it just enough to pass for a different story. I mean come on. Just because one girl has another soul doesn’t mean that its not one body. So its basically one person. And i do understand she has a different place and setting but have you Twilight fans ever heard of opposites? Setting for Twilight Forks Washington. Wet and soggy. Setting for The Host? A desert.
So do we get the point? She has nothing else to write about. She has only written like 7 books. And did anyone see the Twilight cover? Its the same as another book! All i’m saying is maybe Stephanie should use the covers SHE picked out and she should use her own mind to write her own stories. Like Bella Im Switzerland. But 2 pages of comments isn’t going to stop her from writing. Maybe you guys should cut the crap.
I read about half of the above commenting/arguing before I decided to reply… I never post on comment boards like these, I just prefer to look at the material I am seeing and take it away however I will.
That being said, why can’t there be authors out there that you don’t enjoy? Why can’t Person A love everything that Person B despises? We’re all human. We were given the right to have preferences. We were given the choice to enjoy literary garbage, or the most celebrated Shakespearean story out there. Some love to read Cosmopolitan for their “literary education.” Others read War and Peace.
I’m wondering why we can’t all follow the “To Each Their Own” mantra- in everything. Religion, politics, clothes, food, books, music.
Why does it have to come down to “Oh, you liked that, so you must be stupid for enjoying it!”
In closing, I don’t care if I’ve made a zillion grammatical errors. I’m not writing an essay for the President to read, I’m writing a comment on a blog for random folks on the interwebz. I get tired of the AGE OLD “I’ll destroy you because you like something I do not!” argument.
TO
EACH
THEIR
OWN
Learn it, live it, love it.
PS- I HAVE read both the Twilight Saga and The Host. I enjoyed them for WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. Nothing more. A book seeks out an intended audience. It isn’t required to say on the front: “This Book is Directed at Women from Ages 12-17.”
It’s YOUR choice to make… so why don’t you choose to go enjoy the things YOU like instead of sitting here wasting your life bashing other people and THEIR choices?
HAGD!
Right on sister ^_^ Lol.. Um, i rather enjoyed the twilight books. So what does that make me hmm?
its funny how people always fight about the twilight series whenever stephenie meyer or vampires or sparkles are mentioned.
arguing about how lousy stephenie meyer is isn’t going to make her less famous or anything. in fact, you just made people more aware of her.
by insisting that she’s lousy doesn’t change the fact that she made millions from selling the series and became so famous that just the mention of her name can create hatred and love.
grow up people. your words cannot hurt her at all.
As a believer in Kantian values I have the duty to at least try to enlighten everybody about the awfulness of the works of Stephenie Meyer. Imagine how many people believe these are the best book ever written and what great books they will never read because of this believe.
Imagine how many people have no idea who Kant is and are still happy.
Maybe some people will say, “Oh, look! Books can be something besides boring and start reading!”
Oh, and are you going to start trying anytime soon?
I agree notolaf. At least it will get kids to start reading again hopefully. Or with the recent wave of Vampire mania hitting, they’ll want to learn the vampire folklore, or even read Dracula or Carmilla (two classics that proved to me that classics aren’t hard to read and boring), and gateway into other classic writings.
Or just reading in general, regardless of the merit it’s given.
Stephenie Meyer’s great accompleshment will be to start a civil war. That might be entertaining…
Also, our words would hurt her if her brother (?) didn’t be a man-wall for well-meaning crits, never mind mean ones.
And anyway, these things are fun, why stop?
…
I feel less bad about taking dA pictures when I fool around with making book covers now.
Oh goodness. I have to say I don’t think it’s fair to label the people who enjoy the series as “simple minded.” The books are categorized as “young adult” for a reason, they aren’t meant to be in the classics with Wilde, or horror with King. I also don’t think it’s fair to say if someone dislikes something that they are stupid.
I don’t think Meyer is the worst thing to happen. I remember reading “Twilight” around 2005, before it became so huge. It’s the “phenomena” that gets me sometimes. With the film, the countless merchandise and beyond, the overpublicity of the whole thing makes it cringe-worthy. Kind of like Rowling for me, the massive hype pushes newcomcers away.
I don’t think she is a terrible writer. The Twilight series is written from a teenage perspective, not a wise, all knowing, or omniscent POV. I havn’t read the Host but I hear it’s written differently. Pluse, she’s a fairly new author, it’s hard to say if her books will stand time, or if she will write something completely different. Just my 2 cents. Not meant to be directed at anyone.
Guess what? King has an opinion, just like everybody else on this planet. Saying that what he said (Meyer being a terrible writer) is the truth just because he is widely liked author doesn’t mean anything. Saying that Meyer is not an author is entirely unfair, she wrote a few books, made some money off a few movies, and cashed a pretty decent check if you ask me. Younger people tend to like the books the most, and kids these days need to be reading more and watching tv less.
Just my two cents.
Hey guys, do you remember when this was about the cover art? Good times, good times…. If you don’t like Stephanie Meyer why’d you click on the comment page and if you like her, you know perfectly well that the people who don’t aren’t gonna change their minds even if you defend her. Just be happy that the kiddes are reading instead of watching Mtv reality tv shows.
In reference to the “another SMeyer fan” comment, at least try it. I’m not saying if you read it, you’ll love it, because God knows I’ve read my share of books and I hated them. But try to read it with an open mind, because it actually changes everything. First time I read Brave New World I HATED it. But I was told to read it, it wasn’t reading it to simply enjoy reading. I had to force myself to finish it so I could pass the tests. I waited a year, and decided to read it again, this time for my own enjoyment, to see if I would actually like it. Turns out I do. You just have to read things with an open mind.
Yes, I understand that somtimes, even when reading with an open mind, you still don’t like a book. Personally, I can’t stand Agatha Christie or the Sherlock Holmes novels. But I don’t like mystery. Just not my genre of preference. And just because a bunch of screaming girls gets a vast amount of attention, it doesn’t mean that they’re the only ones who like Meyer. Keep in mind that the Twilight Saga was written for TEENAGERS, but The Host was written for adults.
So, yes, I have read and enjoyed the Twilight Saga, but now that I’m maturing, I’m seeing it as childish, something to read when you don’t know what else to read and you don’t feel like sinking your teeth into something with a lot of depth. And yes, I have read The Host, and I like it. Things get a little meatier in it, there’s more depth into the human psyche, more trying to define what really is a “monster”. But I understand that not everyone likes her. Not everyone likes King, not everyone likes Rice, not everyone likes Shakespeare, or Poe, or Bronte, or Austen, or Rowling, or any author. That’s the beauty of it, there are so many books out there, we can choose who we like and dislike. And there’s still plenty to go around.
P.S. Yeah, real vampires DON’T sparkle. And they AREN’T vegetarians. I’d much rather take Lestat or Dracula over any of the Cullens.
Wait, vampires are real? Well that adds a whole new level to things!
Lol, sorry, being stupid and silly…
Anyway, I did read her books with an open mind and enjoyed them for what they were worth – a bunch of fluff. They were a quick read that I could take to work with me and read on my fifteen minute breaks and be done with them. I have no real problem with Twilight or miss Meyer. What I do have a problem with are the rabid Twilight fans that rant and rave about how Meyer is the ‘best author ever!!!!1!!1oneoneone!’
You mention Brave New World (a favorite of mine since I was about 9 or 10). If you ask fans of the book and/or fans of Huxley to explain why they like/love the book so much, you get an intellectual conversation. The same is true with many other books – a lot of which were written for a younger audience (and I’m not just talkin’ Harry Potter here). The same is not true of a lot of Twilight/Meyer fans.
You say that you do not like the work of Agatha Christie or Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, but you cannot deny the greatness of their writings, nor their importance to literature as a whole. Meyer, on the other hand, has yet to prove her worth. She may yet make the leap that both Shakespeare and King (and many others) have made from low art to high art, but I don’t really see it happening.
This might be kinda long, so prepare yourself. Okay, here we go. I’m almost 12 years old, I’m in love with Twilight and definitely not annoying – I know how to handle myself and it’s not like I go crazy over Jacob, or Edward. So you can’t sterotype “our fans” because of the “annoying-12-year-olds” at all. That’s not a reason. I know what you meant, but it’s not what you said – there can be crazy 15-year-old-fans, there can be crazy 22-year-old-fans (Example? My sister. Yikes is she obsessed.) But anyway, I don’t scream every time somebody says “Edward”, and it’s not like Twilight’s the only book I read. But back to Stephenie being an awful writer – don’t hate me, don’t criticize me, or anything like that: I think Stephenie’s an awful writer. What she does is stupid, and she definitely needs some work with writing. What I like about Twilight is the idea, (Well, not even the idea. An over-controlling vampire? As if. Team Jacob :]) So I guess I should update it then? I don’t know what I like about Twilight, something about it just draws me in. But guys, really here – are we talking about Twilight, or Stephenie’s writing? No. We’re talking about “The Host”, and how it has a similar cover – which is the Art Department’s area, and it’s just the same stock image. ‘Kay? Lets chill out. – Amanda
That was SOME proper grammar for a child of almost twelve. Haha, I do agree though. This is, infact, a stock image.
And please continue to be so! Your parents should be proud.
And, wow, I just made myself sound about 15 years older than I really am…
Thank you.
Haha, join the club! 
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Dat is dezelfde foto als op de kaft van mijn natuurwetenschappenboek staat !
That’s the same photograph as my biologie-book!
Please, do not place all “tweens” who have read the Twilight series in the same bin. I’m 13, and read the series when I was 12. I enjoyed the books when I read them, but was far from the annoying adolescent that now characterizes a Meyer novel. Now that I’ve developed more in my literary tastes, I realize that Meyer isn’t the most gifted author. In fact, I find myself wondering how I ever read her books in the first place. But, as already said, very eloquently, by Amanda, I like the idea of the books.
I also second Amanda in saying that this post wasn’t even about Stephenie Meyer’s writing ability, it was about the similarities in two book covers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and everyone has different literary tastes, but I think I’ll stick with Tolkien from now on.
I’m glad to see that somebody else, my age, agrees.
Age is a number – you can act like a “child”, but you can be any age. My sister and her best friend are utterly obsessed, and to be honest fit the character of a “crazed tween.” By the way, she’s almost thirty. 
Also, thank you for agreeing about the topic of the discussion. I’d like to point something out, & I surely don’t want to sound mean, but, all of you girls/boys are sounding a little immature yourself’s – you should really stick to the discussion: The cover, of a completely different book!
LEGITAMATE …. ROLL OUT!!
I don’t think it’s right saying the series gives a bad impression to teenage girls. It’s not suppose to be realistic (fantasy). Just because someone is a teenager, it doesn’t mean they’re going to read a book and be influenced by it. The point is, Bella is really young, and very naive. She’s never been in love, and in comparison to the shapeshifters and vampires, weak. I was 15 when the 1st book came out, (19 now), but in my opinion, there is a clear sense of fantasy, no means to really want to model life after any characters, or search for my own Edward Cullen.
There are books aimed at young adults that are 10x worse than Twilight could ever be, as far as questionable content, look at the Gossip Girl books! Those books are vapid and trashy. I imagine my mother is much more pleased with my love of fantasy fiction (hell even my tirades about Dracula being the victim!) than just teen-sex novels and what not. But it’s better than kids just reading Tiger Beat.
she just created her own mythology in the story. Sure the sparkling is out there, but at least she made up her own rules for her characters instead of recycling ideas Bram Stoker or J Sheridan le Fanu. Nothing against that, but it gets boring. The vampires in Kings ‘salems Lot had all the rules from Dracula.
INTERNETS FIGHT… I CHOOSE YOU!
GO, TWILIGHT-BASHER, USE LOGICAL ARGUMENT!
I love how stherious arguments get over this kind of thing. That said, The Host was actually a decent book. I thought it was better than any of the Twilight saga books by far.
pffff. Wow, ridiculous. I dont even know why u guys call Meyer an author. & this is just another proof that shows it’s a ripoff.
sucks for her!
Please state why you think this is so. And also look up the word author in the dictionary, it might help you know the meaning of an easy vocabulary word. What is this “proof” you are stating? Is it the cover? It seems to me like you don’t know what you are talking about.
whaaa?? i have the host but i dont have that other 1. im just guna look up the other 1on google cuz google is the bomb. i love it. i think ill marry it, wait im getting off subject. yeah so wait what was i saying? oh yeah ummm the host is umm yeah.
I’m 18. I first read Twilight when it came out. (I was around 14.) What drew me in at first was the vampire aspect. I’m a huge fan of vampires. I loved watching Interview With The Vampire & The Lost Boys. Then, when I read the book, I liked that I could relate to Bella. I was in love with someone mysterious, who I didn’t quite understand. True, Meyer’s writing isn’t the best, but it gets her point across. She tells a story, which, in fact, is the point of a book. I’ve seen several posts on here about Bella being overdramatic or weak because of the way she reacts when Edward leaves her. But think about it. These books were written specifically for teenagers. When you’re a teenager, especially a teenage girl, and the person you’re in love with, more importantly your first love, leaves you…its the worst feeling in the world. Again, I can relate to Bella. When you’re a teenager, everything feels like life and death. That’s why so many teenagers like Twilight, I think, because the story of Edward & Bella very literally is life and death. The fact that we can relate to the characters is a huge appeal. It was for me, at least. I’d never say that Meyer is the best author, or that she was my favorite (that’s Scott Westerfeld) but she deserves credit for showing so many teens that they’re aren’t alone in their lives. That there are other people out there feeling the same way they are. I laughed and cried with Bella because I understood what she was going through. Though I am a Twilight fan, I am quite sick of the hype that was brought along by the movies. Especially since so many people jumped on the train after the movies, when they’d never touched the books before! The hype is very annoying.
Anyway, The Host was pretty good. I liked the idea of it, and the message behind it. Who cares if the artwork is similar or the same as another work? You can’t judge a book by its cover. The words inside are much more important than the picture that binds them.
It also resembles the cover of Jennifer Government by Max Berry, although not as blatantly.
I don’t care about Stephenie Meyer’s talent, or lack there of. I am a designer, and I just can’t stand it when people work is copied. One would imagine that an author who has gained so much popularity could at least get an original image for her book.
both books came out around the same time & they just used stock images. its not her fault
See, that right there is just plain stupid. How could you be so cold? Do you personally know Stephenie Meyer? Would you wish death on somebody? I’d like to know. A family member died, not even a week ago… would you really wish death? And why, on earth, would you be so immature? Wow.
Ok, so they used the same stock photo. That’s what they’re there for.
Welcome to stock photos, jackasses. I’m so tired of “Book with stock photo totally looks like Another book with the same stock photo” crap.
LOL agree with elliot. Though I would not be suprised if Stephanie Meyer DID have a say in the cover art and was like “Oh goodie! I’ve seen this before lets use it so people will buy my bookie wookie.”
She is a terrible author. Yes she is an author but a terrible one. Nuff said.
Lynne Flewelling – Luck in the Shadows, Bone Dolls Twin, etc.. had massive input on the front covers of her Nightrunner re-launch books. She was also kind enough to post on Facebook and let us fans weigh in with our opinon of the artwork, and even better, she then gave that feedback to the artist who made the appropriate changes.
So, yes, authors do have input on what goes on the front cover, *however*, it could also depend on the publishing company and what is in the contract.
I just can’t seem to get the “sparkly vampire” image out of my head. It makes me giggle uncontrollably. Is this bad?
Stephenie Meyer is a big, fat (heh) failure. Her books suck so damn badly, I can’t even see straight when I think about them. Epic, epic fail.
please support your statements with reasonable word choices. I don’t consider BIG and FAT legitimate. I wonder if Heather can write a book better than SM?
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Of course Stephenie Meyer is an author, so don’t say she isn’t. An author is a person who writes for a profession and can sell their work well in public. An author can be anyone who can create writing that many people will be fascinated by. Have any of you people even read ANY of her books? I personally have read every single one, more than once, so my opinions are Legitimate. I have to admit that she is a little bit repetitious, and Breaking Dawn was a downer towards the end. But other than that, all of her books, including Host, have been phenominal. She IS an author because of the way she can create such a unique story line as well as group of characters. So, unless you have really read all of her books, you can’t really have an opinion on the subject. (Also, the cover of books dont really matter, even if it might be identical to another)
You know, I’d rather my kids be illiterate than read Meyer’s work. I don’t buy that “at least they’re reading” crap. Twilight is not the gateway drug that’s gonna get teenagers to pick up Victor Hugo or Shakespeare. It’s just trashy fluff. Not much different from Harlequin romance except Meyer doesn’t churn out a fresh sausage of illiterature every month.
The problem of the USA is the teenage kids don’t read anymore and hate studying.
Thank God if your kids read even just the Twilight Saga, at least they read a novel. lol
Kids don’t want to study nowadays. They want to get the coolest gadgets, get into the biggest parties, get to hook-up with all the famous people, and have sex.
See the point?
You try getting your kids to voluntarily read Shakespeare and they’ll drive you nuts with questions about how to read the flippin’ thing.
de proeving means the tribulation in dutch , i wonder if those 2 books have the same plot?
Come on people, this is about THE HOST not TWILIGHT.. and although they are both written by the same author, The Host is 1000000 times better than Twilight, for one it’s written for adults, and as such isn’t STUPID.. >.< Granted, her writing style isn't perfect, and she has some stupid "romantic" themes in both books/series (w/e). But don't judge The Host by Twilight.
Stephenie Meyer is not a bad writer.. The Twilight books are bad books.. read The Host.. its a good book. Sooooo much better than twilight… one plus: NOT TEENAGERS!!! lol. its a book for adults. and NO SPARKLY VAMPIRES!! YAY! just some mind stealing aliens. haha
Makes sense, considering I’m pretty sure she stole a few names from Anne Rice.
Uh, I say shut up about Twilight already.
You either hate it or you like it. SIMPLE.
Don’t go bashing it just because you want to be “accepted” and don’t go obsessing about it because you live in a fantasy world.
Save it for the forums PALEEZE.
Thank you so much for that Tron, I agree with you.
She’s a brilliant author totally disrespected on the basis of awful filming teams and actors.
UGH yall get ur lazy butts off the computer and do somethin good with ur life
teehehe no offense
I know right! I saw this book at my aunts and uncles house, and I was like, OMG it’s the Host, but it wasn’t.
Well I suppose that it’s refreshing to see that the cover matches the book in that they are both rip-offs!
such plagiarism!!! hehe lol
You guys may not believe this, but I found the cover art for my english text book on istockphoto! No WAY! It’s free-use images, kind of like clip-art. Of course it will be re-used. Move on.
Oh, and while I do agree that the author is a complete mockery to the literary world, I don’t believe that the author’s writing skills are in question here. <3
The author is a terrible, terrible writer. The story is basically the books True Blood is based on, but with Mormon propaganda cleverly disguised in it and even crappier dialougue. They could actually be a good story (if not particularly original), but due to Myers writing, are not.
It’s truly crappy writting, and dangerous to boot. But if it’s keeping morons from getting knocked up, good for it! Just don’t put it in my face.
osso hein meu! não entendi nada desses milhões comentários mas é mo bad trip de verdade né
Okay, I’m here because of The Host, so I’m not going to start on Twilight, but I have read the entire series.
It’s a stock photo and both books where published in 2008, so Meyer is not copying. She probably didn’t even have a say in the cover choice.
The Host is a great book and in my opinion much better than Twilight. So before you judge the book by the cover and it’s author I suggest you read it.
how very UNcreative of her, im NOT surprised.
STEPHENIE MEYER IS A CRAPPY,CRAPPY ‘AUTHOR’
Anyway, doesn’t matter the cover but what is inside.
So we can conclude that Stephanie’s works are sucks like the book cover. (OWNED
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Approved!
Wow! That was a beautiful owned!
S.O.A.D.B.!
system of a down balls?
^^ like
What the hell is SOADB?
And we couldn’t wait more from a Stephenie’s fan!
I agree
Means son of a de*m bit*!
Idiot!
You know what I don’t get?
Apparently there’s only venom in Vampire’s blood, so why the hell did Bella not turn into a Vampire when she had sex with Edward? And how did she get pregnant?
Then again, trying to make sense of the Twilight books is an impossible task.
Man, on this book the vampires are fairies shining and running between flower camps. Why do you try see sence on the book?
You understand thus significantly in terms of this topic, produced me personally believe it from so many varied angles. Its like men and women aren’t interested until it is one thing to accomplish with Lady gaga! Your personal stuffs outstanding. Always handle it up!
You know, you’re about as annoying as people who have to say “FIRST!” on the seventh post.
FIRST!
I love you.
Me? You’re too kind. I love you too. Peace out Y’all, Y’hear?
You are all retarded…
But yes….Stephenie Meyer’s writing style is just like my middle school sister’s
Note: The Host is NOT Twilight… soooo, why does it matter what you opinion of the Twilight books are.. Read The Host!!!! (So much better than Twilight, *shudders*)
and just a quick thought on your last comment: the Volturi are not the first vampires, they are just the most famous, you say you read the saga, but apparently not the last book, where you meet the Romanians, who ruled prior to the Volturi.. No one knows the origins of vampires.. I vote evolution.. just saying